October 13, 2010
Greetings Neighbors,

Pull out  your old emails …   we need your responses again on

Craig Weiss’s plans!   This will be over by November.

Now is the time to bring it home for the neighborhood!  Please read on……

Three updated items follow about The Other Room and 1205 Local.  Thanks for reading on…

1)  THE OTHER ROOM (TOR) HAS REQUESTED EXTENDED HOURS from 1PM to 2 AM Instead of current hours from 5PM to 2AM

(To be heard at  a new planning commission hearing OCT 21st)

The neighborhood concern is that AFTERNOON DRINKING will expand an UNWANTED SNYERGY between the proposed 1205 LOCAL and The Other Room. These additional hours will allow TOR to continue to operate without regard for neighborhood concerns.


1. More noise
2. More congestion on neighborhood streets and AKB
3. More density and parking problems
4. Problems of having a drinking establishment open within a 1000’ of two schools, Elementary and Pre-school.

Use the above concerns if you agree, and add your own sentiments of the problems this causes our neighborhood.  Remember – keep it short – pull from a past email!

Emails needed by OCT 15 to be considered by Planning Commission.



    1. Your name and address
    2. Case # ZA  2009-1390 (CUB)

      SEND TO:


  1. Please include:

    (Request for dispensing beer/wine additional hours 1pm to 2am




Let’s not let this happen.

Please read on for update on 1205 Local…..

2)  1205 Final Appeal before Planning Commission

Hearing for Weiss to appeal the denial of his beer and wine license is tentatively

Nov 3rd.  Your emails will be needed to OPPOSE THE APPEAL again. You can resend the email you sent to the Sept. 15th appeal hearing (which Weiss got postponed to November) – more on this later.

3)  RECAP of Oct 5th community meeting at 1205 Local

The goal of Weiss’s meeting was to gain support from residents with hopes that he can then get  VNC to support his beer and wine license request.  Neighbors at meeting did not feel Weiss made substantial concessions. What he suggested is: 1205 could close at 2AM rather than 3AM.  He also suggested patio be closed at 11pm, and sidewalk at 9pm. This will not, however,  reduce the likely drinking synergy between TOR and 1205.  And remember, Weiss is using a grandfathered parking clause.



If you think these changes in any way warrant 1205 Local new support by the neighborhood, please email us by Monday 5pm to: (Venice.neighbors.together@gmail.com).

Remember: Weiss does not have a reputation for working with residents. The reality is Weiss has already been denied a license by the planning commission.  The police and VNC are against Weiss getting a license, and Rosendahl’s office does not support it.  While Weiss is pushing for VNC to reverse its opinion prior to his appeal hearing — their decision is already in.

Monday night is a meeting to determine if 1205 Local will get on their October 21st agenda again to readdress VNC support. If by chance this happens  — we will need to attend that meeting.

That’s all for now folks ….

we will keep you updated on next steps. Thanks for staying informed on all this!


Greetings Venice Neighbors,
The outcome of 1205 Abbot Kinney Blvd. (AKB), and Craig Weiss’s < The Other Room (TOR) > request for expansion of a new business and beer & wine license is still in our hands.
For those who did not attend the 9/23 LUPC (land use & planning) meeting – Weiss was asked to make concessions. He did not budge on hours, number of seats, having outdoor seating or dealing with parking issues…  we can only imagine the late night impact on surrounding streets of TOR X 2.
The purpose of this email is to give an overview of the public process, and the steps to take to object to Weiss’s requests, and influence the City’s final decision on 1205.
So here goes…..
Later this fall Craig will go before the Zoning and Planning Commission Hearing.  This is where the city decides if he is granted a new beer & wine license. They will also determine which of his requests will be granted.  To name the biggest offenders:
1) Outdoor seating for 20 on front & back patios
2) No parking requirements
3) 7am – 3am hours of operation
4) 53 total seats
5) A new beer and wine request (on and off site)
Prior to this hearing there are several meetings he must speak before to gain public support for his project.
1) His own public meeting (Sept 17th) àThe annoyance with Weiss and TOR was palatable
2) LUPC committee of Venice Neighborhood Council (VNC) (Sept 23rd) àWeiss had about 10 people speak in favor of project which may have swayed LUPC’s  recommendations.
3) Upcoming VNC Board (October 20th) Public invited àNeighbors need to show up in force so board knows our issues.
Here’s how the public process works from here out and where it needs our Input:
LUPC’s recommendation to VNC Board. Of the 5 above requests, the only concession Weiss made was to close outdoor seating prior to 3am. All other requests are pretty much getting a YES vote by LUPC.
OCT 20th VNC BOARD: The board can choose to go with the LUPC recommendation or make their own. What ever comes out of VNC Board meeting is presented as neighborhood recommendation before zoning and planning hearing. Public can write letters to board and make testimony on 10/20.

ZONING HEARING (date now unknown) they will make their decision by weighing:

§ VNC BOARD recommendation
§ Public letter testimony sent to zoning commission
§ Public testimony at zoning hearing
§ Alcoholic Beverage Control (ABC)  input regarding any recorded complaints on TOR and how that could effect Weiss receiving a new license
§ Councilman Roshendahl’s office (based in part on public response)
§ Police input regarding any publicly recorded noise complaints
We need to go on public record that we are concerned with Weiss opening another establishment as requested, based on current problems with TOR.
We need a barrage of letters, emails and phone calls to the following “officials” to let them know neighbors are serious about not wanting Weiss to expand his way of doing business from 7am to 3am in our neighborhood:
Whitney Blumenfeld: Whitney.blumenfeld@lacity.org

TEL:  *** 213-473-7011***

ALSO: Since Rosendahl’s office is dealing with the grandfathered parking — consider telling our councilman (and the VNC board too) we don’t think grandfathered parking is appropriate for Abbot Kinney.

Consider bringing up issues like:

too many restaurants on AKB already, and if there is not enough room for the current patrons to park – where will these new ones put there cars?

historical parking use dating back to 1940s Venice is not relevant to the congestion and impact of AKB on our 21st neighborhood.

grandfathered parking clause no longer be used in favor of new restaurant wanting to open on this street.

we are also impacted by beach parking – where are the 1205 customers going to park without dedicated parking and 53 seats?

(If you include info like this in emails – put it your own words to keep it personal)

happy letter writing and phone calling….
We can have a real influence by all of us voicing our collective 1205 concerns now!
Any questions?  Please email us for answers!
Venice Neighbors Together

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